More on Smut Philosophy

Um, so I’m not sure of the etiquette here.  Is it rude to cut and paste a comment I left somewhere else into this?

I just did, anyway, so KD, slap me I shouldn’t.

Um, gently.

So I don’t know if anyone’s actually keeping track of this epic discussion of erotica and literary theory, but just in case…

KD, who I talked to the other week, posted about Joseph Campbell’s ideas about James Joyce’s ideas.  Because it seems KD is a weeny bit obsessed with Joseph Campbell, and I’m beginning to get why.

Fucking Star Wars, people, among other shit.

So anyways, Joey C says JJ thought there was esthetic art and kinetic art, in that some art wants you to do something, and some just wants you to look at it.

Basically.

Um, I think.

That’s me paraphrasing what I think was said and as has been mentioned you should never actually rely on me for either legal advice or exam answers.  Especially exam answers.  Yes, I see you google people.  And also bearing in mind I just completely dumbed that down to nothing, probably, in my head while thinking about it.

So anyways.  The point of this was I really like the idea of esthetic vs kinetic art as applied to smut.

Because I think what I’m trying to do is actually esthetic, in that I want people just to look, as it were, and not necessarily be moved or join in.

I think.  In that there’s no imperative, like in advertising, and in that they don’t need to act, they just need to watch it unfold.  I think that’s all I’m asking from readers.  As opposed to, say, more social commentary or political fiction that wants you to fix injustice and such.

So I wonder if that connects somehow to all this erotica vs porn and such, in that porn seems, to me at least, to almost require engagement.  Like you have to be turned on, or there’s no point in watching it, whereas erotica can hopefully be read either as smut, or as a story about some people and what they do.

That could almost be a test, in the sense of the Supreme Court needed a test better than “Ah knows it when ah sees it.”

So I’m not sure if I’m talking waffly shit or not, but that’s the thought I just had.

And yep, I know there’s a whole body of theory that says what I think I’m writing about doesn’t actually matter, but um… yeah, I can’t really answer that.  Because what I think right now doesn’t actually matter either, and…  now my head hurts.

Anyways.

I am also very taken by the idea of art that moves you with loathing, and it’s completely KD’s fault when I start doing horror-erotica, because I’m allowed to be repelled by what I write myself.  Fucking excellent.

I just want everyone to know who to blame when that happens.

And for those who aren’t quite getting why this is so fucking funny, may I present my shitty Amazon reviews where the whole internet would like me to stop writing about violence please.  Basically.